Archbishop Lefebvre always maintained the desire to arrive at a peaceful
relationship with the Roman authorities, the consecrations resulted in a new
phase of hostile treatment and persecution of the Society by the Roman
authorities. You have tried over the past decade, at least, to find a
resolution of these hostilities and persecutions in a manner which in no way
compromises the principles of the Society's mission. So far at least your
efforts have not succeeded in a resolution. Why do you think, notwithstanding
your good will, the efforts have not succeeded thus far?
of all, I would point out that the initiative of normalization came from Rome,
not from us. I did not make the first move. I tried to see if the situation was
such that we could go ahead while keeping our identity. Obviously, it is not
yet the case.
The authorities still stick to the dangerous and poisonous principles which
were introduced in the Church at the time of the Council. This is the reason we
cannot go along.
have no idea how much time we will need, or how many tribulations we will have
to suffer through, until then. Perhaps ten years; perhaps more, perhaps less.
It is in God's hands.
12. Do you remain open
to receive contacts from Rome and in particular the new Holy Father?
course, I do remain open! It is God's Church. The Holy Ghost is still above to
move beyond the obstacles put in place after Vatican II in the Church. If Our
Lord wants to make things straight, He will. God knows when it will happen, but
we must be always ready for it. A complete and true solution can only come when
the authorities work again in that direction.
13. What signs can we
watch for to determine if a conversion to Tradition has occurred, or is
beginning, among the Roman authorities?
is very difficult to say where it will begin. We saw with Pope Benedict that it
was primarily the great sign of the liturgy and perhaps some other efforts
which were less strong. These happened in the face of strong opposition.
Obviously, it didn't make it through to what we see now. But it will definitely
have to come from the head.
may come from below, from bishops, priests and faithful in the Novus Ordo who
want to come back. I think this tendency has already started, though not yet
very large. It's not yet the mainstream, but it is definitely a sign. Profound
change must come from above, from the Pope. It could come from several sides,
but definitely it will mean to put God and Our Lord Jesus Christ in the right
place in the Church, in the center.
14. Assuming a
conversion from the top, in Rome, how could the work of restoring the entire
very difficult to say. Right now, if things do not change, it could mean inner
persecution and large fights on the inside of the Church as it happened in the
time of Arianism. If something else happens, for instance, if there was a
persecution and then afterward, the Pope came back to Tradition, the situation
could be totally different. God knows what kind of a blueprint He will follow
to bring the Church back on track.
15. What can be done
to hasten such a return to Tradition?
and sacrifice! Everyone should follow one’s duty of state, encourage devotion
to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, and pray the Rosary. Concerning the Rosary, I
am open to a new Crusade.
16. What do you say to
those who claim you planned (or still plan) to compromise on the Council and
with the post-Conciliar Church?
is pure propaganda from people who wanted to split the Society. I don't know
why they have these ideas. Obviously they used the very delicate situation of
last year to accuse the Superior of things he never did or had the intention to
do. I never had the intention to compromise the Society.
ask yourself: to whom does it profit to see the Society divided, if not to the
enemies? Those who divide the Society with their dialectic, they should reflect
on why they do what they do. With this, I mean Bishop Williamson and the
priests who follow him.
17. Looking back over
the past year, is there anything you would have done differently?
certainly. We are always wiser after the battle. I would have emphasized more
what I have always said, though I didn't think it was necessary to emphasize:
in whatever kind of an agreement, there would always be a condition sine qua
non that we are not going to compromise. There is no way. We stay as we are.
This is what makes us Catholics, and we want to remain Catholics.
certainly would have, and in fact, have already, improved communications. I was
paralyzed by the leaks. I would do it otherwise now.
18. Beyond relations
with Rome, what are your hopes for the next 25 years for the Society and the
in these next 25 years, we will see the return of the Church to her Tradition
so that we may see a new blossoming of the Church.